level 40 CE should allow 4/6/10 Sieg, Alternative teams will probably need higher skill levels due to lower wave 2 damage=>less overkill hits=>less NP refund. Well, the other alternative is to do this set-up. Sieg is fantastic at spamming his NP. Guide includes Ascension / Skill Items, Stats, NP, Skill & Review. Can Archer of Inferno [Saber] 3 turn loop? I had already resigned myself to just Arash w1 and wait the extra year for arts looping to be a thing. View entire discussion (86 comments) 6.3k And let's not forget that K.Rider is one of the best Servants in the game. ), he was one of many allowed to be used by Caster of Black for usage as harvesting materials for his golems. NA Guide Sieg looping GilFest is a popular topic and people often ask what skill levels are needed and whether you need your own Waver (short answer: you can reliably clear but not in 3 turns. ). See spreadsheet below for more details. In FGO NA’s current state, such talk isn’t particularly a requirement – clearing the story up until the Rome singularity can be done with just a decently leveled team and a good Jeanne support, regardless of strategy. If you get to hell, tell them I sent you. You get a free T-shirt. In order to use the NP your NP gauge should be fully charged. Since there are 4 different skills affecting NP gain and 2 affecting overkill hits there is no one answer. It's pretty much all I've been focusing on since he came out during the apoc event. 3 Turn Quick and Quick Critical Damage Buff for an ally . Note that event's story must be completed before Sieg b… Sieg, the protagonist of Fate/Apocrypha, temporarily joins the player's party when the event starts. Edit: Updated requirements as 4/6/10 might not be safe depending on how rounding works. FGO NA (Sakura): 251638528. Learn all there is to know about 『Siegfried』 in FGO(Fate/Grand Order)! You can also try combinations for non-2xWaver comps. So the only candidate who can quite possibly perfect NP loop is between Sieg, Scheherazade, and Jarcher Important to note is Paracelsus - he's not a looper himself, but he theoritically pushes the posibility of these loop by a lot. ID 208. Since its kinda on topic, when searching for comps i also found a RNG 6 Slot comp for the Assassin node that uses Nero Bride instead of another Waver. It'll take more than 3T and need higher skills but you'll loop reliably, so it may be worth it to some of you. There's RNG Multiplier=0.9 under Constants and Computed Values, so it should be assuming min damage. Level 9 is 28% charge so as long as you get a refund of 71%+ you're fine. Don't have Skadi or Waver? Arts up, NP gain up, and just putting a brave chain together if you can. During his NP the music playing in the background is his theme from Fate/Apocrypha, " Savior ". But he’s done it. Maybe higher? His NP refund is one of the highest in the game, at 15% gauge base, and this merely increases further with NP gain and Arts buffs thrown on him. Recent threadmarks How to 3-Turn Farm loop with Sieg, VIdeo edition. His 50% NP has an added heal. Helps to have batteries on hand (Waver, especially) to top them off if needed. lol so this is like one of those F2P videos. How can I calculate other skill level combinations? Marcus is the answer for anything except "best unit who isn't Marcus," but even then he is a strong contender. If you want to use a VPN, here is how. Saving this for later. e.g. During his NP the music playing in the background is his theme from Fate/Extra CCC, "Cosmic Air". Sieg was created by Yggdmillennia as one of their many homunculi suited to various purposes. NP damage (Σn hits) 一 that make Overkill enough for 100% gauge [ NP2 - NP5 ] x0.9 (Low Roll - Random Value) (NP1 damage is ¾ NP2) No DPS command cards (I think) 1) Columns are your DPS servant 2) Rows are your DPS' equipped CE 3) The boxes indicate the other pieces needed to achieve 3 NP loop. Edit: to be safe I've tried to account for rounding thanks to BrrrMang's help. Something like 2004 MC would make more sense than Atlas. Come join the hundreds of thousands of Masters on your grand journey. Quick Effectiveness buff allows not only an increase in Quick Damage but also directly increases the NP and Star Generation of Quick Cards. Regardless Starting NP Gauge is always a strong and safe bet, as are any Attack Up effects. r/grandorder: Welcome to /r/grandorder, the central hub for Fate/Grand Order and all things related to the Fate franchise. NP wise Lily has 400-700 damage AoE Buster that also gives a big heal to herself, while Sieg has a 450-750 damage AoE Arts that decreases defense before doing damage. There is no escape save through arash. Come join the hundreds of … Might be too pessimistic, so 6/8/10 Sieg might be fine, but updated minimum requirements to be the safe values. Although during his first old NP the music playing in the background still uses stage music. Also, while working on this I found a generic tool for figuring out NP gain against a specific node. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Para NP can't guarantee kill the W1 lancers in Prelims with just one waver buff, so use attack>NP>attack to guarantee clear. Also now I'm confused as to how the Paracelsus/Sieg NP loop works with the NP refill afterwards if the NP Gain skills don't affect it. Linear, Male, Neutral Good. Note that NP gauge can overcome 100%. User Info: CVGnaoki. Buster Performance Up is a great choice as well, especially once his own Buster steroid is not active. How to use NP . The fact he can spam as a Caster (which will face Assassins that have below-average NP gained-on-hit) makes it all the more impressive. I wrote a guide and calculator to help figure that out. Edit: Looks like I was squeamish about dipping too deeply into my low-if-not-truly-empty stock of demon hearts around 8 on the middle skill. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. As the welfare servant, Sieg can be raised to Level 80 and NP5 by playing through the event. Event Eligibility 「Hundred Years' War of the Evil Dragons: Orleans」 must be cleared to participate in this event. X = can't be done. Demonrugal 11 months ago #5. MLB Magical Girl Sapphire helps though. Switch FC: SW 1645-5886-8487 FGO NA: 176,180,580. 4-Star Caster welfare Servant. It will be best to summon for her on the 3rd Anniversary Celebration of FGO, otherwise you may have to wait 1.5 years for her to return again. User Info: Demonrugal. Initially kept in a magical energy supply tank devised by Gordes Musik Yggdmillennia to grant energy for Servants and was originally known as Homunculus (ホムンクルス, Homunkurusu? Is it possible to have Sieg's 3rd skill at level 9 instead and compensate with higher level for another skill for Sieg/Paracelsus? If I remember correctly, there’s a hunting quest coming up that’ll fix that real good. You can also quickly calculate as you wish : FGO NP Damage Calculator (by maketakunai) Notes. In other words the NP is a servant's Ultimate skill. You could look at leveling the damage CE. He, on the other hand, was one who managed to shoot down the stars. Rounding NP gain per enemy to 0.1% underestimated the NP refund, but removing rounding overestimated it, so updated to use 0.01%. Just taking a quick peek at the math in your spreadsheet calculator it seems like you may not be accounting for RNG which affects overkill hits. No. As noted in the spreadsheet below, you can still use this team without your own Skadi or Waver but it isn't going to be a simple, reliable 3T. you also need a MLB 100 black grail, double waver, merlin, 2x MLB ox king and the fully leveled mystic code.". New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Also since Para's upgrade is finally out I tested how rounding works. Oh well. Obvious disclaimer but I can't fully test this, so best to exceed the minimum skill requirements. Cirnopoly 4,798 views. You can play around with the calculator to possibly find lower requirements if you want. 9/9/9 Sieg and 3/9/9 Para is 74% so it works. 3:07. Oh well, I'll just STALL IT TILL IT DIES then. Have fun and enjoy your stay. Siegfried Hits: 2(33,67)|2(33,67)|1(100)|3(12,25,63) Golden Rule C- Increases own NP generation rate for 3 turns. I wrote a guide and calculator to help figure that out. You can still probably 3-5T Semifinals with 5 slots, which is pretty good for a F2P team. It is a unique skill and its effect varies from dealing damage to enemies to ally buff. To reliably 3T you need Waver or Skadi for 50% battery). Next time eat a salad." This would leave 4 slots open for event / MP shop CEs (Waver + entire backline). Also since he used a "Self-Destruct" Noble phantasm at full power and suffered no real wound, his NP should be an NP that uses every other Servants NP in the whole game at 500% charge and level 5 automatically aswell as an extra 1000000% death resist so he doesn't die New How to use Fate/Grand Automata App Resources for Gilfest 3-turn Comps. Edit Again: Reformated. Gilgamesh as NPC has a special sprite and card art for the final battle of Babylonia against Tiamat. It can change the result of a battle and really helps with farming on Quests. Your pair of Skadi's give 50% NP charge each Assumptions: 1 DPS, double Skadi with third skill maxed. Skill Levels for Looping Sieg in NA GilFest 2020. He is a 4-Star caster with an AOE Arts Noble Phantasm plus skills that increase his Arts cards effectiveness, NP gain, and immediately charge his NP gauge. NP Damage Up meanwhile only really stacks well against non-Dragon enemies, but it can still be a decent choice for NP turns depending on the strength of the CE. I may be wrong, though. [FGO JP] NP looping with Summer ... Sieg 3-Turn Kill NP Spam - Duration: 3:07. - PokeAMon, "Nice hustle, tons of fun! Voiced by Hanae Natsuki, Art by Konoe Ototsugu. You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. I own Google stock so this was actually all a clever scheme to convince people to spend money rolling for Waver in September. If I’m understanding this right then KeyKing is not correct. Skadi looping is the usage of two Skadis (your own and a friend) with Quick AoE Noble Phantasms in order to clear three waves of enemies using a single Servant. Looks like level 40 reduces Sieg's requirements to 5/6/10. EX Arts NP (Deal heavy damage to all enemies.) "You can totally do this by simply just using shakespeare! I asked this earlier and someone mentioned not needing a second charger if you manage to get both to 10/10/10 with the Atlas mc. I always thought dragon fangs were the one thing I’d never run out of. Due to his unexpectedly high quality Magic Circuits, he was thought to be a good choice for Caster's Golem Keter Malkuth. what is going on with App store, Am I the only one having promblem with new update. CVGnaoki 11 months ago #6. -Sieg’s third skill is a 30% NP battery with a bonus effect on a 6-turn cooldown, which is pretty fine. Question about Magical Girl of Sapphire / Cute Orangette CE's. Sieg was an event reward from the Apocrypha/Inheritance of Glory and Apocrypha/Inheritance of Glory Re-Run event. OP, you might want to repost this as well once Gilfest is upon us. If you do spot any mistakes please let me know. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, 2018: £852.85 | 2019: £639.72 | 2020: £65.31. His skill 2 is like MHX but actually useful, immediate, and non-random. The Thread’s Superstition (Affections of the Holy Grail: Drain Luck From Reddit) Servant Mats The Black Grail – Without looping, Masters would look to get her damage up in her strength, the Noble Phantasm. When will we get our next free SR ticket (FGO NA) ? Magical Girl of Sapphire / Little Halloween Devil / Distant Pilgrimage – Using a hybrid charge / NP gain CE can enable her to loop with a Waver and Chaldea Combat Uniform, but it limits her to only clearing Caster waves. Despite the "Babylonian NPC" card being "unofficial" art, the image was edited by the staff. So back to recommending 6/8/10. Summer Musashi 3T Farming In Gilfest 2019 FGO - … With enough investment and team support, Sieg can potentially loop his Noble Phantasm multiple turns in a row. The caveat is that you will need to give up one CE slot and you need to have MLB IE/ non LB Kaleido. Semifinals has Assassins with low enough HP, I wonder if Sieg+double Waver+Tamamo could do it using Painting Summer instead of event damage CE. Nitocris can definitely loop in special circumstances. To reliably 3T you need Waver or Skadi for 50% battery). There is also now the ability to mark additional modifiers for specific enemies (for situations such as Sieg, Mordred, Frankenstein Def. Furthermore, the stars produced from his NP allow himself and his team to crit on the following turn, further filling their gauges. For example, a frontline of Nitocris, support Waver, and a third servant could clear an entire 3 wave node just by themselves. Thanks so much! I recommend trying it out: https://gakiloroth.github.io/. Generally? Tiering is done based off of ease of setup and applicability. I've never seen her loop but it is theoretically possible. It's always double waver. Looking to maintain maximum flexibility for Lores. Cooperate with all the Masters, defeat the enemy Servants, and advance through your Main Quests to obtain the Event Limited Servant 「4★ (SR) Sieg」! NP gain buffs do affect the NP refunded off of each hit of an NP. Sub Goal: NP refund of 50% NP after each wave. Like using Skadi with her DEF down on wave 3 by reducing the 60%/1000 attack under "Other Buffs" to 30%/500. Just need 97 void dust to get Para to max skills and Sieg just needs Lores. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. This is the Fourth FGO discussion thread, as always, leave your sanity by the door (if you still have it), prepare for funny things, enjoyable company, wacky hijinks and salt, lots and lots of salt. Can max grailed NP2 Zerkerlot (but not 2000 Fou) Skadi loop without MLB K-Scope? How does that work? He shares the exact HP values at minimum and maximum with Nitocris. Lolidusa, Okita, Ishtar, Scathach, Ozy, Waver, Jack, Raikou, Ruler Martha. Even Atlas shouldn't make the charge low enough to use any skills again. The most limiting factor for this comp for me is not having my own waver. I forget what chokepoint I hit when I finally scraped together enough fangs to upgrade one of them. Sieg looping GilFest is a popular topic and people often ask what skill levels are needed and whether you need your own Waver (short answer: you can reliably clear but not in 3 turns. You can substitute Skadi for Waver, if you have her, although there are some notes: Skill requirements may be higher to loop unless you use DEF Down on W2 (sacrificing damage on W3), Servants in Prelims/Finals can resist DEF Down on W3, reducing likelihood of 3T. Can NP twice if she receives NP charge from her CE / other buffers. He’s wrung me dry on them. The Para/Sieg/Double Waver 3T 5-slot team for GilFest (example) has gotten a lot of attention lately because it allows equipping 5 lotto CEs, only needs 1 gacha servant (Waver), and can reliably 3T clear one of the best lotto nodes (Semi-Finals) and on generally 3-4T the other best lotto nodes (Prelims and Finals). ; Certain setups require the usage of more resources than just two Skadis, and will be described below. Now if only I didn't need caster gems to farm for more caster gems. That's Kintoki Rider's 2nd and 3rd skills combined. While Sieg wins the HP stat, with the caster Multiple, Sieg's actual Attack is 9,147, so Lily wins that. Originally a nameless homunculus, Sieg gained his name after receiving a certain dragon-slaying hero’s heart and powers during the Great Holy Grail War of Fate/Apocrypha. Just sayin’. Atk: 1,399-8,394/HP: 1,806-11,288. But considering mat requirements and that arts effectiveness>NP gain as it also increases damage I suggest: 6/8/10 Sieg and 3/8/8 Para should be sufficient for 2xWaver, Leveling the damage CE a bit or face carding before the W2 NP can further reduce this. QAABB. That said I’m hoping that I can at least get him up to 6/6/6 soon. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. This also contributes to her slot efficiency. Sieg also can get a big refund from this NP as well with his skills. Ideally: Sieg (MLB 200% dmg CE) + Para + Waver + Support Waver. The stun is just a potential bonus; +30% ATK for 3 turns is awesome. The NP Total Timer counter at the top counts the NP time every time you calculate NP damage - but keep in mind this is a rough estimate and I hope to put more accurate data in the future if possible. Privacy PolicyCookie SettingsDo Not Sell My InformationReport Ad. Welcome to /r/grandorder, the central hub for Fate/Grand Order and all things related to the Fate franchise. Some try to grasp the unreachable stars through sheer determination. The RNG is getting a Sieg arts card to form an arts chain on Turn 1 but for a greedy comp that needs 1 SSR on your own its good enough. I also recall Hundred Personas having a stealth nerf to her NP. Debuff, etc. -Scout. I don't think she's supposed to loop in the first place with just NP. A Caster-class free event Servant, he is known for his high AoE Arts NP Damage and NP gain, the latter of which is a manifestation of his homunculus origins. I was squeamish about dipping too deeply into my low-if-not-truly-empty stock of demon hearts around 8 on the following,. Circuits, he was one who managed to shoot down the stars produced his... Up to 6/6/6 soon against a specific node of Masters on your grand journey deeply my! Voiced by Hanae Natsuki, art by Konoe Ototsugu, Ruler Martha but. 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